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Uchan, the Solo-based writer at the heart of the eighth installment of the Indonesian Hiphop Podcast, brings decades of unfiltered perspective to a conversation that unpacks the intersections of public art, community identity, and the line between creative expression and mislabeled vandalism. The episode, titled Eps. 8 : ABEC, Tembok Panas dan Vandalisme menurut Uchan, is helmed by host Yuan "Biggy" Alfasa, and leans into Uchan’s first-hand experience as a creator embedded in Indonesia’s graffiti landscape to unpack layers of the scene that rarely make it into mainstream national conversations. At the core of Uchan’s reflections is the concept of tembok panas, a quiet, persistent longing that shapes his entire relationship to the walls he works on, the spaces that hold the history of every creator who has marked them before, and the tight-knit community that gathers to care for and build on those shared creative canvases.